jessicalynn
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I just started my cleanse today. (YAY!) I am not really doing this cleanse to lose weight, but for the detox/health benefits, and also to springboard myself into vegetarianism. I was curious about the shakes because they aren't mentioned in the Master Cleanser book. How important is it that they are taken? I wasn't planning on taking them, mostly just because I couldn't find the Bentonite anywhere. What type of benefits am I going to be missing out on, if any? I figured at least a few people here would know. Thanks! Jessica
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You can get the Bentonite and the Psyllium at Whole Foods Market, if there is one near you. That's where I got them from. I started the P&B shakes 5 days into the MC and three days later I started seeing solid waste. I presume that's a good thing since I hadn't eaten anything solid. Must mean it's cleaning stuff out of my colon that's been stuck there a while... |
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Jessicalynn: the p&b shakes are not part of the master cleanser. they are part of a cleanse called the 'ultimate fast'. the ultimate fast takes the master cleanser and adds a colon & parasite cleanse to the fast. |
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The Master Cleanse and the Colon cleanse combined is what is called "The Ultimate Fast" HI: I posted this message before for another member; but for you and other members that want to know about the P&B shakes here is the information. The P&B Shakes done at the same time with The Master Cleanser is what is known as the "Ultimate Fast" following are the instructions that are enclosed when the product is purchased from my website. Hugs/DG/ P.S. if you can't find it in your health food store, support this message board by buying from the website's master cleanser products  Psyllium & Bentonite Shakes! As the colon thickens with impacted feces, the blood capillaries to the colon begin to pick up the toxins, poisons and noxious debris though the bowel wall; all tissues and organs of the body are now taking on toxic substances. Quoting from an article in USA Today, dated January 11th’99 “Most people who eat the standard American “goo and glue” diet have about 5-10 pounds of matter stored in the colon” The Master Cleanser and the Colon Cleanse “The Ultimate Fast” is the simplest and most effective way to remove waste and to rid the intestinal track of hardened mucus buildup and impacted fecal matter. What to expect from the P&B Shakes: It may take 3-5 shakes a day and or several days before you start passing mucous plaque and impacted matter. Do not be alarmed over some of the strange material you may pass. Its not unusual to pass rope-like material which is lengthy and elastic. Look for sticky gray or brown substance resembling a jelly fish, (unhealthy mucous) You may see small or large black ribbons resembling pieces of broken tires. (impacted feces) Preparation: 1. 8-10 oz of water or diluted juice (you may use 1oz of apple or orange juice) 2. 1 (one) tablespoon of liquid Bentonite - 3. 1 (one) heaping teaspoon of Psyllium - Blend or shake in covered jar, or use a hand blender. Drink quickly before jelling action starts. Important: Drink another glass of water immediately. After ½ hr. drink a second glass of water. Sufficient water is a key to success with this cleanse! How many Shakes? Start in the evening prior to bedtime. - The next morning upon rising,
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Start with one shake a day and gradually increase as the body adjust to the additional fiber. When? The Shakes must be taken on an empty stomach, at least one hour before your MC lemonade. Wait at least 1/2hr. before your laxative tea. How Long? Suggested time 7-10 days, but it may be continue for up to 30 days. Caution: Psyllium or other bulking agents should be avoided in cases of bowel obstruction or perforations. Disclaimer: The lemonade Diet, any suggestions here and or materials supplied are given solely as a suggestion; anyone who follows it does so voluntarily and at your own risk. Consult with your doctor before trying this or any other cleanse or diet. TheLemonadeDiet.com
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jessicalynn
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Hmm. So it sounds like maybe I should try harder to find these ingredients. I live in a city (Buffalo) where we don't have a Whole Foods store within a reasonable distance. Anyone have any suggestions on a different type of store? I already started my cleanse today, so I think I'm beyond buying it online. Sad.  Thank you so much for that information everyone. |
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jessicalynn
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Alright - thank you dietguru! I think I was just able to track some down at a store near me, and I'll be picking it up today. |
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What does the shake taste like? Just curious. It's already hard sometimes to take the lemonade and the SWF, but I need all the help I can get!  |
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The bentonite doesn't taste like anything (think clay, but it's diluted so you don't really taste it) so the taste of the shake depends upon what the psyllium fiber tastes like. It's usually quite benign. It's not the taste that gets people, it's the consistency. It gels up fairly quickly, but that can be ameliorated by using colder water, by using a bit more water, and by drinking asap after you get it mixed up. I have no trouble with it, but then, over the years I have gotten used to pretty much everything. It's not that big a deal. You can do it!!  |
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Hello, I have the ingredients to do the P&B Shakes, just haven't done them yet. I am on day #6 and will be doing it for 10 days. Is it too late to do one now? Or at least today? I've had my tea this morning, my 34oz. of lemonade, and about 32oz. of water.
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there are two kinds of psyllium offered at the Wild Oats near me - psyllium husks, and another kind. is one more desireable than the other? thanks!
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I justed started the P& B shakes on day 13. Hello! From liquid tea to solid stuff. Amazing. I think the key is to drink a lot of water. |
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With the P&B shakes, if you're taking the smooth move at night, when can you take the nightly P&B shake? |
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I think the instructions said to do the shakes at least a 1/2 hour before the nightly tea. I'm really interested in doing the shakes, too. 
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Hi there, Does anyone know if it's OK to do the PB + MC for just 7 days? I am trying to get preggers and think I should give myself a few days to reintroduce food before ovulation weekend. Thoughts? (BTW, I'm on Day 2 and am thinking of going through next Monday or so. I haven't started the PB thing yet, but have all the stuff...) |
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Is there any timing involved with the P&B shakes, like where you need to be close to a toilet an hour after or something? I've been worried about doing this stuff in the morning and then going to work. |
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I'm confused about the P&B directions. It says to start in the evening prior to bedtime. Then it says should be taken on an empty stomach at least one hour before MC. Which is correct????
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I am going to end the fast in 3 days, can I still do the P&B shakes and not be on the fast?
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I'm really curious, could someone please fill me in on how to time the SWF with the P&B shakes. I'm looking at starting them tonight.
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Don't tease me like that! I saw the heading of this thread and got excited wondering how I missed the chapter on being allowed to eat Peanut Butter! |
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started the P&B Shakes last night, day 5/15 of the MC......I am remembering from somewhere 2-3 a day?.....I had one last night, 2 so far today.... hint to anyone trying this...don't make my mistake.... poured my 8oz water....thought, I can drink 16 oz no problem....mixed the Psyillium and then the Bentonite, took a sip, put it down for a while, then came back to it....it thickens VERY quickly....I got 3/4 of it down and had to stop...like drinking oatmeal!. ...today I mixed the Bentonite first, then the Psyillium in only ONE 8oz glass and drank it RIGHT AWAY.....works much better this way! saw on a site called Colonix....that they recommend doing the P&B for 20-30 days? anyone have any advice on this? Diet Guru? Iris |
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okay...so 3 days on the P&B Shakes...2-3 per day....and no result....and I have not lost a pound since I started them.....I feel fine, albeit a bit sluggish, or maybe that's just depressed because no movement for 3 days on the scale...... wanting to start the other cleanses (parasite, kidney, gall bladder) but with no "movement" on this I am a bit perplexed.... anyone have any advice? Diet Guru...you're the expert? thanx Iris |
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Quote: Originally Posted by kerosenedream
I'm really curious, could someone please fill me in on how to time the SWF with the P&B shakes. I'm looking at starting them tonight.
I'm wondering the same thing. Someone plz answer. Thanks.
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iris
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I do the SWF 1st thing in the morning before anything else....then after that's all "through".....I have a P&B Shake, followed immed by my 1st glass of Lemonade..... I try to have 3 P&B Shakes through the day, I guess at mealtimes....maybe a bit later....then the tea at nightime.... I found out I had the wrong tea.....not a "moving" one, just a cleansing one....so I got the right one and things are moving....but nothing as spectacular as reported on all the websites....just more of the same as with the SWF actually....so I don't know...going to give it a few more days and then if nothing exciting happens I'll go off.... goodluck....Iris |
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so I've been doing the P&B shakes 2-3x a day for 10 - 12 days (can't remember)...I've been off the MC for 8 days now...doing a Parasite Cleanse also, which requires high fibre, so I thought I'd continue with the psyllium....and things are starting to "appear"...as I started to go off the MC and eat food again...that's when things started to "come out"...going to continue with the P&B shakes prob until the supply of the stuff is gone...I'm on the Parasite cleanse for another 5 days anyways.... after the Mc I found I was more "regular"...even without eating large volumes of food...maybe it's the fibre...maybe it's because of the cleanse |
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I'm using a product called Para-Gone..consists of drops and capsules...3x a day.....I am in Canada..not sure where you're at and if it's avail to you...I'm sure there is something like it at your local health food store...good luck.. |
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Funny Zaoli....it teased me too! I went into this thread also thinking I could get some peanut butter!! |
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Quote: Originally Posted by DietGuruThe Master Cleanse and the Colon cleanse combined is what is called "The Ultimate Fast" Psyllium & Bentonite Shakes! A 1. 8-10 oz of water or diluted juice (you may use 1oz of apple or orange juice) 2. 1 (one) tablespoon of liquid Bentonite - 3. 1 (one) heaping teaspoon of Psyllium - Blend or shake in covered jar, or use a hand blender. Drink quickly before jelling action starts. O wise one, are you really saying we can have oj on the master cleanse? i'm confused. |
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Regarding: Caution: Psyllium or other bulking agents should be avoided in cases of bowel obstruction or perforations. So are you saying not to do the psyllium then? Please advise.... |
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I'm on Day 5, only lost 5 lbs so far. I have a fairly severe case of IBS (Intestinal Bowl Syndrome) which manifests itself in the form of constipation. I was on prescription laxatives before I started the cleanse but stopped them because I thought the tea and salt water bath would work. I've now gone 2 days with no "flush" of my system - meaning now significant bowl movement. I've kept to the lemondae only drinks and do the tea at night and the bath in the AM but it doesn't seem to be having an affect. I pee alot but that's it. Has anyone else experienced this, I feel like my body is failing at this detox if nothing is coming out??? HELP!! |
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A couple questions: 1) I read somewhere that doing the P&B shakes will absorb the nutrients from the lemonade and cause the starvation reaction in the body. Is this true? If so, how much does timing matter from drinking the P&B to drinking the lemonade? 2) If we're using the bentonite only, which swells in the colon, and we're using the laxative to loosen things up for the bentonite and the SWF to wisk it out. Is the psyllum (sp) really necessary? The MC is called the Master Cleanse for a reason, b/c it's supposed to totally clean the liver, colon, & kidneys as well as blood, cells, and other tissues. Therefore, it's said it kills parasites, Candida and dissolves the mucoid plaque, so other additions during the fast (such as parasite supps) shouldn't be necessary. Any opinions on this? P.S. It's also said the way to know the body is fully detoxed is when the tongue goes from white to pink. This may take 10, 20, 40 days or more. Is anyone using this guideline to know when to end their fast?
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Goodness you ask alot of questions........I have been doing the Master Cleanse along with 5 fiber/clay shakes per day.........I do them at 3 hour intervals.....7am, 10am, 1pm, 4pm and 7pm.......and drink the lemonade in between......have not felt starving...that's a bunch of hooey. If you are concerned just allow 20-30 minutes before drinking lemonade after ingesting. The clay does not bulk up inside of you........it's already suspended in liquidm it's purpose is to absorb toxins, the fiber is a gentle broom to help sweep it all out. I wouldn't do clay alone...you need the fiber to help push it on through.
As for the Master Cleanse being sufficient in and of itself......sure, if you can stay on it forever.......and can tolerate high amounts of cayenne (which intensifies the cleansing aspect). Otherwise, it is more efficient and highly beneficial to do both.
I am at the end of my second day of the "ultimate cleanse" lemonade and pb shakes...and I plan on doing at least 8 days if not 10. I have done this before and you would be amazed at the difference when you do both. A good colon cleanse can only be done while fasting on clear liquids (for which the master cleanse qualifies)....but I don't think the MC alone will take care of parasites. For that you need herbal aids and daikon radish juice helps also. (Mixed in with other greens and some apple which makes it palatable.) I once did a colon cleanse while eating a light diet, which included antiparasite capsules........I never saw anything....and I was looking. Then near the end of the 2nd month, I got a juicer, started juicing, and for no particular reason added daikon to my juice, and after 5 days of drinking this juice combo....I felt a flump in my belly.......wierd, but not painful, and 2 days later I passed a very dead, 15-18 inch long 1/2 inch wide.........thing....most likely a tapeworm. so...........I hope this is of help.
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Hi Oceantigress! I was thinking of doing the PB shakes but I'm on day 7 already. You mentioned that it should be done with a clear juice fast. Do you think I should start the PB shakes now on day 7 and do them until I'm back on food or should I wait until the next time I do the Cleanse? Thanks for your help! |
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Wow Oceantigress, that's a heck of a story. I guess, ummmmm, congratulations? |
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Has anyone else started to get hungry after introducing the PB shakes? I was totally fine, and on Day 5 when I started the PB shakes. As soon as I started taking them, my hunger returned and I was drinking almost twice as much lemonade without as much satisfaction.
Also, is it true that if you take the PB shakes with juice, it does not allow your body to absorb the nutrients or calories from the juice?
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I need help. I am on my 13th day. But I still crave sweets and salt at night only. I don't feel hungry. Now what do I do with acraving. Also I am in the Caribbean, I have 24 lbs to go to reach my goal weight, I do my elliptical and I am inpressed that I have extra energy but my tummy is blaoted and no waste is coming out even with the strongest senns tea. I did not see the PB shakes in the book but I called my health food shop and I can't get shakes but I can get capsules with both ingredients to use 1, 3 times daily plus extra water. Is this OK? Also what do I do with these cravings and can I use limes instead of lemons for a change? I posted and got no replies, I would love a reply from Diet Guru and anyone else. I have lost weight but the cravings and the bug tumy are discouraging me but everyone has seen weight off my legs (I have knees again) and upper body but the protruding stomach. OMG. Also, no waste. What is happening. I know I have 42 years of gunk in me.Sorry for the gross factor. Thanks K
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From Iris: "okay...so 3 days on the P&B Shakes...2-3 per day....and no result....and I have not lost a pound since I started them.....I feel fine, albeit a bit sluggish, or maybe that's just depressed because no movement for 3 days on the scale......wanting to start the other cleanses (parasite, kidney, gall bladder) but with no "movement" on this I am a bit perplexed....anyone have any advice?"
Iris, my advice is to increase your water intake. As the other post mentioned, the Bentonite really gels up, and it does the same in your colon for the purpose of absorbing and pulling out impacted fecal matter. However, the P&B can also make you constipated if you are not "moving" it with enough water. I grew up on this stuff, so I can tell you from firsthand experience.
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Hoping a question can be answered for me - Is it a bad idea to drink the lemon aide during the day, and a light healthy dinner at night? Will this dramatically effect the results of this. I do not want to take the advantages away. Thanks for your response.
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Thanks for the reply, I read some other threads so I just havent ate. Got allot easier after day 2.
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I've been taking Cascara Sagrada for the last two years instead of a regular laxative. Could this be why I have not had heavy BM's?  I'm on day 5. |
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I am on day 5 of my 2nd Master Cleanse. I never heard of the P & B shakes before. So far I have lost 4 pounds. Will I loose more weight with the Untimate Cleanse than with just the Master Cleanse alone?
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Thanks DietGuru! I have a tendency to take them not to lose weight but because of years of bowel problems even with a very healthy diet. Thought that the natural was better than the regular chemical stuff. This was one of the reasons for doing this cleanse, hoping that it would help regulate all of that. I will check out your info on the main page! Your a great support! Day 7 now! 7lbs lost! |
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